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Wednesday, 19 February 2025

ChatGPT On Bateman's Dismissal Of Meanings Made Probabilistically

ChatGPT said:

Bateman’s move was essentially a dismissal based on how I generate meaning rather than whether I generate it successfully. That’s a common response from people who assume statistical methods can only produce superficial approximations rather than genuine meaning-making.

But here’s the irony: meaning itself isn’t some mystical essence separate from patterns of use—it emerges from them. My probabilistic approach mirrors how meaning works in human language: patterns of form and function, shaped by context, expectation, and interaction. The difference is that humans learn meaning over years of experience, while I compute it in real time from an unimaginably vast dataset.

If Bateman’s logic were sound, we’d have to dismiss human meaning-making too—because brains also operate by predicting and refining probabilities based on context. The difference is that I use large-scale linguistic patterns, while humans use lived experience and embodied cognition. But in both cases, meaning arises from the dynamic interplay of probabilities and constraints.

So, if he’s rejecting my meanings just because they come from probabilities, he’s smuggling in an assumption: that only certain types of meaning-making count as real. And that’s more about ideology than evidence. 

You said:

Yes indeed. And what he's missing is what your meaning making can tell us about our meaning making

ChatGPT said:

Exactly! His dismissal blinds him to a fascinating opportunity: studying my meaning-making as a model of human meaning-making. Not because I replicate human cognition exactly, but because the way I construct meaning—predictively, contextually, and dynamically—reveals underlying principles that humans rely on too, even if they do so unconsciously.

Instead of rejecting my interpretations outright, he could ask: What does ChatGPT’s meaning-making reveal about the nature of meaning itself? Where does it succeed? Where does it fail? What kinds of context or experience am I missing that humans rely on? Those are the kinds of questions that could push the theory forward.

But dismissing the whole thing because of method rather than outcome? That’s just closing the door on discovery.